Caring for a loved one is a role that often goes unseen and undervalued. In this interview, Matthew McKenzie speaks with Elsie, a 73-year-old carer and activist, about her journey as an unpaid carer, the challenges she’s faced, and her mission to support others walking the same path.
Standing Strong for Carers’ Rights
Elsie refuses to be silenced. Though at times labeled as a “persistent, unreasonable complainer,” she sees her persistence as a duty to her loved ones and to other carers. For her, raising concerns is about advocating for better care and systemic improvements.
Her advice to carers is simple but powerful:
Trust your instincts.
Don’t give up until your loved one gets the right care.
Learn about carers’ rights and stay engaged in decisions.
Finding Strength in Words
In a deeply moving moment, Elsie shared a poem she had written for the Book of Remembrance at Honor Oak Crematorium, in memory of her son. Her words reflect not only grief but also strength, love, and the motivation to keep advocating for change.
You’ll always be our hero. Although you’re gone, we’re not apart. Our love for you keeps going, It stays deep within our hearts.
Football, food and fishing Were what it was all about. Blue is the color, Come on, you lions, to shout.
by Matthew McKenzie – National Ethnic Mental Health Carer Forum Chair
In August, the online National Ethnic Mental Health Carer Forum came together once again to confront difficult but necessary conversations about systemic racism, discrimination, and the experiences of ethnic minority carers within health and social care. The forum, hosted by Matthew McKenzie, provided a platform for carers, professionals, and researchers to share insights, frustrations, and plans for change.
Focus on Racism and Discrimination
This month’s forum was unflinching in its focus: racism in health and mental health systems. Attendees shared powerful testimonies of racial abuse and discrimination, highlighting how these experiences undermine trust in services and affect both carers and those they support. There was a clear call for honesty – participants stressed the importance of naming racism directly, rather than disguising it behind euphemisms.
The group also discussed the overrepresentation of Black and brown people in prisons, the lack of tailored initiatives for older Black carers, and the persistent inequalities faced by ethnic minority families trying to navigate mental health and social care support.
Research and Evidence from Carers Trust
A key presentation came from Andrew of Carers Trust, who shared research into the barriers faced by Black, Asian, and minoritised ethnic carers. The findings highlighted widespread issues: discrimination, language barriers, lack of cultural competence, and difficulties in accessing benefits. Andrew emphasised the need for culturally inclusive services and stronger outreach strategies, while acknowledging feedback from the forum that research and advocacy must be explicit about racism rather than avoiding the term.
Andrew expanded on the importance of equity in benefit advice, pointing out that many carers miss out on their entitlements because information is inaccessible, overly complex, or not communicated in culturally relevant ways. He called for dedicated advice services that are not only multilingual but also sensitive to carers who may not self-identify as such.
He also spoke about the impact of social isolation on carers from ethnic minority backgrounds, who often have fewer support networks and face stigma within their own communities. Addressing this requires building trust with local organisations and ensuring carer support is visible in spaces where communities already gather, such as faith centres or community hubs.
Finally, Andrew outlined the Carers Trust’s national strategy, which involves working more closely with local carer organisations, producing research that amplifies marginalised voices, and lobbying for systemic reforms. He highlighted how this forum’s feedback directly shapes their advocacy, showing a real commitment to partnership.
Questions raised during Carers Trust’s presentation:
How can Carers Trust ensure its research explicitly names racism rather than using softer language?
What specific support can be offered to carers who do not self-identify as carers and miss out on benefits?
How can Carers Trust improve its complaints handling processes, particularly for carers facing racism and discrimination?
What role can MPs and lobbying groups play in supporting Carers Trust’s advocacy for ethnic minority carers?
How will Carers Trust ensure its multilingual materials are distributed widely enough to reach isolated communities?
Hampshire & Isle of Wight NHS Anti-Racism Initiatives
Usually NHS Mental Health trust representatives update on anti-racism initiatives at the forum. This time Hampshire and Isle of Wight engaged with minority carers.
Elton who is the Diversity and Inclusion Partner from Hampshire and Isle of Wight NHS Trust provided an update on their anti-racist programmes, including the rollout of the Patient and Carer Race Equality Framework (PCREF). The trust has begun implementing cultural competence training, engaging with local communities, and embedding anti-racism into its wider mental health services. While early in its journey, the trust is already seeing changes in communication and engagement across different wards and services.
Elton shared that the trust is actively developing training modules on implicit bias, with the aim of reaching every staff member across its services. This training is intended not as a one-off exercise but as part of a sustained culture change programme. Early feedback from staff has been encouraging, with more frontline workers recognising how unconscious bias can influence treatment decisions.
He also described the trust’s efforts to engage directly with service users and carers, ensuring that their lived experiences feed into decision-making. Listening events, surveys, and advisory panels are being used to capture diverse perspectives, with a particular focus on groups who historically felt excluded from consultation.
In addition, Elton emphasised the need for transparency and accountability. The trust will publish regular updates on its PCREF action plan, allowing communities and stakeholders to scrutinise progress. He acknowledged that this is just the beginning, but stressed that embedding anti-racism into healthcare systems requires openness, humility, and sustained commitment.
Participants raised questions about how these initiatives address specific groups, such as older Black carers and prisoners’ families, as well as concerns about public misconceptions of anti-racism work. Elton acknowledged these challenges and committed to following up with colleagues on gaps raised during the discussion.
Questions raised during NHS Trust’s presentation:
How will PCREF specifically address the needs of older Black adults who often feel invisible in services?
What is being done to support the mental health of prisoners (e.g. Albany and Parkhurst prisons) and their families within this anti-racist framework?
How will the trust prevent the public misconception that PCREF “excludes” white people?
What mechanisms are in place to ensure transparency and accountability in publishing progress updates?
How will the trust measure the long-term impact of cultural competence and implicit bias training?
Academic Research Contributions
The forum also heard from Shylet, a PhD researcher from University of Glasgow, who is focusing on learning disabilities. She presented her work on the lived experiences of Black African families caring for adults with learning disabilities, and invited participants to take part in interviews. Their contributions highlighted the importance of academic research in documenting and amplifying carers’ lived realities.
Another important theme was the financial challenges facing carers. The group discussed the complexity of benefits like Carer’s Allowance and how misinformation or fear of losing other entitlements often deters carers from claiming support. A carer expressed reluctance to claim due to concerns about how it might affect their relative’s benefits, while another highlighted the importance of valuing one’s own contribution and recognising caring work. There was frustration with bureaucratic systems that seem designed to exclude, particularly when layered with the additional barriers of language, culture, and discrimination.
Carers also highlighted the immense value of unpaid care, with estimates placing its worth at over £180 billion per year if it were to be paid for by the NHS. This figure underscored the urgent need for better recognition and support of carers’ contributions.
Strengthening Complaints and Accountability
There was a debate around how carers can raise complaints when faced with racism or poor treatment. Many participants expressed a lack of trust in formal systems like the CQC or Ombudsman, feeling that complaints disappear into bureaucracy without change. Suggestions included working with MPs, lobbying groups, or the media to ensure voices are heard.
Final Reflections
The August forum showed once again how necessary it is to hold these difficult conversations. Carers spoke bravely about racism and exclusion, professionals shared updates on anti-racist strategies, and researchers sought to bring lived experience into policy. Yet the message was clear: systemic change requires more than frameworks and research reports. It requires honesty, collaboration, and persistence.
As host, I was encouraged by the passion and determination in the room. The forum continues to grow as a national voice for ethnic minority carers, and our commitment to addressing racism head-on remains at the heart of this work.
The meeting focused on carer involvement and representation across different regions, with participants discussing their roles in supporting carers and addressing discrimination. The main focus for this meeting was on “What does good look like?” when it comes to Triangle of Care and PCREF.
The group explored the Triangle of Care initiative and its five key elements, including discussions about medication-related challenges and the need for better communication between healthcare providers and carers. The conversation ended with conversations about improving carer support systems, including the importance of advocacy, training, and creating safe spaces for carers to share concerns confidentially.
Here is a brief update of the Triangle of Care Community group for the month of May 2025. The Triangle of Care Community group is a collaborative forum that champions the voices of unpaid carers in mental health services. The group works in partnership with service users, carers, and professionals to embed the principles of the Triangle of Care, promoting shared decision-making, improved communication, and recognition of carers as equal partners in care.
Our most recent meeting brought together carers, NHS professionals, researchers, and advocates from across the UK, including representatives from Kent, Bristol, Lewisham, East Sussex, and Hertfordshire. The atmosphere was one of mutual respect, knowledge-sharing, and a shared drive to improve the experience of care for carers and their loved ones.
The meeting covered updates on Triangle of Care developments, including recent accreditations and ongoing pilots to adapt the model for various healthcare and social settings. Presentations were given on research studies related to mental health care, including pharmacist prescribers’ roles and experiences of underserved older male carers. The group also discussed campaigns for increased research funding in serious mental illnesses and initiatives to support carers, such as Carers Roadshows.
Triangle of Care Expansion Updates
Mary Patel one of the Triangle of Care leads, provided an update on Triangle of Care developments and accreditations. Several healthcare providers have recently gained Star awards. There are ongoing pilots to adapt Triangle of Care for social care settings and to incorporate criteria for better support of racially marginalized carers. Mary announced that the Triangle of Care community group will be formally brought on board with Carers Trust, with Matthew as the inaugural chair for a 2-year term. They are looking to bring on co-chairs to support Matthew in his role.
Triangle of Care Implementation Updates
The group discusses recent achievements in implementing the Triangle of Care model across various healthcare organizations. Gabrielle Richards who leads on carers at South London & Maudsley reported that her trust successfully completed their Star 2 accreditation assessment for community services.
Matthew McKenzie shared a video poem he created about the Triangle of Care as it was shown during the peer review at South London & Maudsley.
Kelvin thanked Gabrielle for her contributions as she prepares to leave her role. Louise from Kent and Medway NHS Trust reported they maintained their second star accreditation and have implemented new processes to ensure carer considerations are included in policy development.
Richard introduced Bashir Al Saeed, a PhD student from the University of Manchester, to present their research study on the experiences of people with mental illness and their carers when receiving care from pharmacist prescribers in the community.
Bashir explains that the study aims to understand and improve care provided by pharmacist prescribers for people with mental illnesses in community-based settings. Participants will be asked to take part in a one-hour interview and will receive £30 as compensation.
The study is seeking individuals aged 18 or older with mental illnesses or their unpaid carers who have received care from pharmacist prescribers in the UK. A discussion follows about the inclusion criteria, particularly regarding the requirement for fluency in English, with concerns raised about potential issues against non-English speakers
Mental Health Research Campaign Initiative
The group discussed a campaign for better research into long-term serious mental illness in working-age people. Irene explained that they have been working on this campaign for a year, collaborating with experts from Oxford and the Welcome Trust.
The campaign aims to gather signatures and includes a short video. Irene emphasizes the importance of this initiative, as many in their group have loved ones who have been ill since their teens and are now in their thirties and forties.
You can find out more about the campaign from the link below.
The discussion focuses on a petition to increase government funding for research into psychosis, including its diagnosis, prevention, and treatment. Irene passionately advocates for more effective medications with fewer side effects, emphasizing the need for better understanding of the underlying causes of psychosis. A carer shared personal experiences of her son’s struggles with mental illness and medication side effects. The group discusses the importance of signing and sharing the petition to gain government support for accelerated research in this area.
Pharmacist Prescribing for Mental Health
The discussion focuses on pharmacists prescribing for mental health conditions. Richard explains that some pharmacists, especially those with specialized training, are caring for people with mental illnesses in various settings. However, the extent of their involvement in prescribing and monitoring is still unclear. A carer expressed concern about pharmacists prescribing for severe conditions like bipolar disorder without extensive training. The group discusses the need for proper qualifications and access to medical records. Richard emphasizes that the study aims to understand and improve the care provided by pharmacist prescribers in community services.
Carers Roadshows: Community Support Network
Trevor a carer involved at Notts NHS described his Carers Roadshows, which he has been organizing since 2013. These free events bring together various organizations dealing with health, mental health, and social care to provide information and support to carers and patients.
Trevor emphasizes the importance of communication in triangular care and sees the roadshows as an effective, sustainable tool for fostering connections between different organizations and the community. He expresses his ambition to expand the roadshows across the country, particularly in London boroughs, and offers to help others create their own roadshows using his four-step guide.
Older Male Carers Advisory Group
Steve Owen from the University of Hertfordshire presents his research project on exploring the experiences of underserved older male carers. The project aims to set up an advisory group of 7-10 older men, particularly from minority ethnic groups, same-sex relationships, and rural/coastal areas, to meet from June to December 2025.
The research group will discuss the benefits and challenges of caring, gender dynamics, and access to support. The project’s goals are to develop a grant proposal for further research and improve advisory group guidelines. Steve is still recruiting participants and welcomes help in sharing information about the project.
Final Reflections
The session highlighted both the progress and the gaps still faced by carers, particularly around communication, access to services, and recognition. The Triangle of Care model continues to be a vital tool in bridging these gaps, but it is the commitment of carers and professionals alike that drives real change.
“Thank you for another great meeting Matthew and everyone.” – Linda Thomas “These meetings have been such a resource for us all.” – Gabrielle Richards “Powerful video, powerful voices. Thank you everyone.” – Claire Wood
I’m proud to be involved and help lead as triangle of care community as Chair and look forward to building our impact together. If you’re interested in co-chairing or getting more involved, please reach out let’s continue to shape mental health care that values and includes carers at every level.
A Caring Mind 